Poly People with Filmmakers Thales Correa and Anthony Moore

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In our current boom of gender and sexual identities, the term “poly” has joined the ranks as a hot topic term describing people who have multiple romantic relationships at the same time. It’s not having an open relationship, it’s not cheating, it’s having intentional and intimate, there are just more people involved. It sounds like a fun idea until you work in the realities of jealousy and the typical ups and downs of any relationship and multiply that by “x” number of people. 

Brazilian filmmakers Thales Correa and Anthony Moore’s recent project, Poly People, is a comedic take on a polyamorous relationship involving very four different lovers under one roof – one straight male, one bisexual female, a lesbian, and a gender-fluid sassy pants named Cuddlez who acts as the housewife. Filmed during COVID, the result is a seven-part mockumentary web series that affectionately demystifies gender identification paradigms and sexual norms proving that no matter how you categorize your relationship, any domestic partnership requires compassion, understanding, and a reconciliation of numerous, diverging lifestyles and habits. 

The show is high energy and infectious, much like the personalities of the filmmakers themselves. Immigrating from Brazil, Thales and Anthony are a whirlwind of chatter, laughter, heavy accents, and big dreams. 

We chatted with them about coming out, growing up in the poorer parts of Brazil, coming to the US, filmmaking, love and dating, and what they have planned ahead....with host Alexander Rodriguez.

This is metro source menes, theofficial podcast to metro sorts magazine and home of short forminterviews with your favorite personalities from the lgbtq world andbeyond, quick fun and informative, it's metal source on the go out in cousin,nineteen, nine, hello, hello, hello. This ismetrosource minnies, i'm your host alexander rodrigues lead rider formetrosource, an avid podcaster with so many new terms to identify yourself outthere, there's pretty much something for everyone: how about beingpolyamorous huh today, i that with filmmakers talis canea and anthony moretwo men as hot as their accents, whose latest project the moqueur web seriespoly people is currently in the running. For my consideration. Poly peoplecovers the lives of four individuals representing all letters of thealphabet living in a polyamorous relationship and it really dives intothe trials and tribulations of this kind of relationship in a very comedicway. Please welcome polly people director and co writer, talis corea, anactor producer, co ricer anthony more. How are you i thank you so much forhaving as a pleasure, i have to tell you i watch this all in one setting.You know it's a web series. It's short little episode. You can watch them allat once, or you know little by little so funny the chemistry that all four ofyou have and the way that you filmed it. It's so comedic, but it also really delves into the topic of beingin a polyamorous relationship, so just very un politically incorrect. Sohere's what i'm going to ask you is: what's the difference between beingpolyamorous or having an open relationship or just being a slut?What's the difference? Well, first of all, let me just say ilove your antro. You just grab the show really well and thanks for raising ouraccent, that's that's very rare to happen appreciation so sexy but hey. I i think pony amer's relationship is aclose relationship with more than two people in the group right and that, butthere they're exclusive between that group, an open us got open relationshipright, open relationship is it could be. I don't think it doesn't matter, itcould be a couple, but they are open to anybody but but they're just closed. Itmeans that they're open to people outside of their relationship rightbeings. Love is nice to me, too. That has a relationship with everybodyyeah it's a yeah, because i we actually talk about that on episode. Seven, wheni don't want to spelleth, has an idea. She actually says not like binna an apolverton ip. That is that we are in a...

...serious commitment between more thanone person. You know i really arful now my ma responsible non manga, that's thename of the save episode that we a about it so and yeah. So, basically, ithink totis coven at all is just like in that's. First lots: well, yeah, it'snice to meet you it's very funny, because i the more ilearned about this. You know it's a term that we've all heard, but it's nowreally becoming a bigger statement in the lgbtq community, but also in in thestraight community as well. Polly amers is for everybody. What i really tookaway is that polly amoris is more about the emotional connection rather thanjust who you're sleeping with, and that's also mentioned one of theepisodes to it's. Not just about the sex, but i have to know: are you pollyamorous, in your own life, for where did this idea come from girl just broke up a look? Look up onyour own, i'm like wait. What was the last part of your question? So i'm justsaying, are you polly amusing, your own life, or where did this idea come from?Why choose this subject matter? Look whose idea came from a second cd writing program that i waspart of last year and there's a classmate of mine call mothers, agerard she's, like a very talented lesson writer. She she tame up with me to to to makethis project. So he came, he came from there and then anthony and i were partwere partners. We do a lot of project together, so i brought to him and thenwe start developing, so it doesn't have a much. We haven't experienced much as a podies relationship. The waywe portray on this series something very official but like being single fora while. I feel, like i've been in love with a lot of people at the same time.So it kind of it relates a little bit. I want to cut his love. I hate a i'm just getting, but we were most ofthe producers or creators of the show are part of the community, lgbt k, pluscommunity yeah, big part of it yeah, so that that's something that we embraceall of the ladders of the alphabet were we race all the differences, and we areaware, like you mention it's a very, is a very traine type of topic and we liketo recognize the other members of the community like the typeof relationship they like to have like. I know a lot of friends who have open relationships and i thinkit's very fascinated. I never had that type of of relationship per se, but iresearching i like i'm curious about. So that's one of the reasons why wethought it would be a good idea to explore the subject riant. I actuallymet some some amerous people in polumetis ip. It's very interesting.You know when you just see them altogether a bunch of actuallypoliverse. I started following me on...

...instagram, a yeah there's this trouble from from sandiego, it's two women in a guy and it's just so beautiful to see the lovebetween them. But just answering your your personal questions, i'm monogamousis like brazilian monogamous, not just a nothos, but jails and torres, and i iyes lin allott's how we latins are, we are very jealous and we will fight youexactly welation. So it's like yeah, i'm monogamous, i'm fine like that!Don't touch! The t is my cake, bitch, but yeah. But i've been i've beenmeeting. Lots of polers people in relationships actually have been intouch with us, even throughout the our channel youtube this and messagestelling how well representing and making jokes about the live situationsand not about the relationship itself. So we keep that respect going, but ye no, we are. We are monogamousand yeah. It's just because we're tolatinus to be pauli. Guess we ever no. I feel he requires a levelmaturity right for you to be a yeah and and for you to be like, i be able to have the mentality of likein separate, and so i feel i'm not there, maybe one day and and doingpolly people, it's just it's just just show me like, although all theirart characters has flaws and qualities everybody does. But i feel like for youto engage on that certain of relationship. It requires you, a loveof of you, know, maturity or if security knowwhat you, what you want, who you are and be and be safe and and understandthat, even though there's more people in that relationship, they still canthey still love each other the same yea. What and what i love you know, one ofthe positives i see from being in a relationship is you know, there's notthat perfect person out there. You know you could love somebody and you theycould be your soul mate, but there's not that perfect person. What, if youhad for people that you got the perfect parts from each person and then you'llhave a complete perfection right? Well that that that's that's one of thereasons why we thought this project was amazing, because it's because we sawexactly what you just said like how? How interesting would it be likebecause the relationship is already difficultenough for you to to be comfit with the flaws of your partner, try tounderstand and try to work it out. Imagine like multiply by for, or youknow or tything like that, like they don't just have like that. Thepersonality is not just different, but if you look at the sexual orientation,that's different too, and that's for us. I think, for me at least was at themost yeah. I wait was one of more interesting thing because, like as istrayed playing a straight guy talker, who has a relationship with cuttles whoyou know it doesn't efim his bay is,...

...you know, he's a nandina but her kerona,that you know he's a guy and then last fist on he's a girl, and then he was. Iloo guys. No, don't don't freaking me, so i think that's why tucker even beena strata. I didn't find that this trait he feels so comferable being with thefeminine side of cuckoo cato, even though he has a penis and he's. Youknow he's a physically male, so it's very nice how we break the boundariesof the physical in his way and just in a we adapt ourselves physically to ourlovers, because the connection and the emotion was there and that's reallyreally. At least i think it's really beautiful, because it's a show realabout love. If you just now, look at it from that perspective, it's aboutloving, no matter, no matter how we look like, or you know how you wereborn and also you know. Some of the household norms such as cuddles is thehousewife. He stays home. He makes the meals he makes it nice, you know, andhe welcomes them when they come home from work and he says good bye to themwhen they're off to work. You know h, he's kind of the heart of the homewhich were you know it's not just the typical sis. Female. That's the heartof the homes anymore. You know, that's, that's the changing now anthony. Iwanted to talk about your work on poly people. This is this comedic funnypiece kind of came from a dark place. You were experiencing some depressionfrom ovid and this became your quote: unquote. Therapy now yeah, so mental health is a every serious issueand the like, i always hit that with men. Many people depression, somethingthat you deal a lot and something just triggers that very strongly. In my case,it was not a very good place as work goals. You know producing a bunch ofevents and every thing so when covet hit and then lost everything i hadbought for over a year and three years of work. That really put me a verydifficult situation and then i tried to focus on myself. I tried to be aspositive as i could and i tried to focus in on one working out and takecare of myself. Then they start shutting down literally everything tothe point where i got stuck in my mind and all that past and all that hardwork to keep herself mentally health. Just just i couldn't go anywhere. I waslot with myself and i had to deal with it and there was no escape. So i justthrew myself in bed and there was a horrible place to be dalis. Approachedme the first time it polly people i read, but from such a bad place anddidn't really connect to the project, but it got worse and worse so talis,literally kind of in a very friend way he bag like. Please just read it again,give you a chance. We can do this and i was like okay and then he was like thatcould be a therapy for you and then i was like, oh my god. It could be. Itcould take me out of bed and put taken out of the house, so i gave myselfanother shot. I put myself dip in there it's hard and now it's really hard towhen you're in the dark place to to light up a little bit just to look atthis cripse. It's lots of hard to work, but thanks to this guy i got out ofthere. I put myself a hundred percent inside polypop. I got to do the castingprocess and produce a series in the...

...middle of a coffee, doing everything ina union and it's a very hard work. So there was something that it just mademe work and work and work, and it brought into such a beautiful, lovingplace that i tell everybody at not just tell is pony people literally saved mylife and i couldn't be an any more grateful to have a amicos deration atthe end of this whole road, so yeah, it means a lot to me in many many ways. Ithink what we've discovered during ovid is really how important the arts are.You know everybody was under lock down, and so everybody was watching netflixhulu. They were watching some of the great lgbtq content that has coming out.People were at home, listening to podcast or music, and all of it is anart form, and it has, like you, said, anthony. It's really saved people fromtheir depression is experiencing the arts on whatever level which, which youknow, tells our government. How important funding is for the arts thattells us as artists how important it is to support other projects, no matterthe medium or no matter. What the subject matter is art does save law isa therapy, that's why it needs to be in schools. It needs to be infused withwith you know, kids growing up, you know, that's just very, veryimportant, so thank you for sharing that talis. Now i deem directing starring produces, is breaking up for you saying, but ijust hear the title is man at team hello? It's gonna call i feel like when we were hello. Sorry,i think we had. We had a bad connection.We are we there anyway, but i want to say yeah, so this isn't the first timethat you've written as well as star directed produce. You know we hadbathroom stalls and parking much which was a big hit and the festival circuit,as well as a top seller on amazon. How do you keep an objective eye fromall those different hats? You have to be very objective, whether you're, thewriter director or actor, to kind of call yourself or be able to changestuff yeah yeah like they was, is a challenge i would say preparation. Youknow that's the key word to do stuff like that. We rehearse a lot beforehand. We have meetings in meetings that, juston the acting part, i make sure that when i go on side to to play a role,i'm already more than trained as an actor ready to do the role i've alreadyknown. My lines are already, even with the other actors already hadrehearsed it dam already to give my notes, so i can perform the other thereto had seonsan a little bit more swiftly, like other things that you can only do onsad. Also, i try to prepare with the with the dp before hand, anything thati can do before hand. I try to do it,...

...but it's just it's just it's just youknow, like all those projects. Projects has been very personal, they touch a bathroom stalls, a bark. A lot was itwas. It was a personal story, potty people the way he came and second cd.It was already approach to me for me to do acting role, matcito cuttles, so itwas just it was just in like seaching at the time he wanted to do. Cuttlesyeah go. Oh my god, that's interesting i such was such a. How do i say it's such a demandingcharacter, i would say in terms of yes, aten was because it has all thoselayers and and every time you want to at least for me. I don't i didn't wantto is a comedy, but i don't want to do like a stereotype for a non binary andat the same time i didn't want not represent, so it was like and thenanthony when we were reading. He was like help me get give me tips of how todo the the row and it was like. Oh my god, you should fucking. Do it. Yeah wehad to, we had some lots of suspicions who would play to would play carsbecause i have to say watching from the outside was the first time i actuallysaw dalis doing wearing all those hats. It ward me a lot one. He doesn't wor,he doesn't sleep to help the force, give him three. Helately has his hands in every single detail and and the character isactually something that we like two three weeks before shotting, we werelike dude we've been doing everything we forgot about our characters, theyhave to build them and everybody was perfectly there, but we were like whoare they on the core of the cart? Even though we wrote the core of the cartersand everything but our own connection, as the actors goes, it got to a pointof self discovery that we were at some point he was like. I think i was goingto be too much for me to play. You have to play cards and i was like me to so. We just have to vote jerk onbuilding the character. I in the confidence of the cart, but i can't seeanybody else doing curdles like he just he just does it with such magical waythat i just can't see it honestly and i would have a complete different catos-would be way more feminine way more, like my cuts o be way brighter awaylike no, i think. That's not what the known binary should be represented byand tallis just got perfect faith for it and i'm so happy when i see him onscreen because i'm like he deserves a freaking me, it should be. I thank youvery much yeah, but i feel like jut to add that i feel like every position.Feaking has its own way like, for example, as a writer, we can write acharacter, but when he gets to the hands of an actor they have their ownpreparation in their own colors yeah there they have their owninterpretation, so the actor has their...

...own work to be like hey, i got it. Iknow what you mean by this character and i'm adding this this flavor to it.I had in misrable andre. We have other oother people reading for andre, butlike what d? A sorry for abigail ters are actual but well andra brace to the table wasit was amazing. So so that's i think, that's what anthony mentioned like wewrote all the characters, but like our work as an actor like what is in on this character that isinside us that can that can shine in the screen and represent that andthat's a preparation that i had that that we i try to do in all myproductions before hand and be already on the time that we're going to filmwere already ready to go right. Yeah, i didn't think i'd like i tried to workso hard to put the level of confidence that that is brought to curdles is justso beautiful to watch. You can see some loopers that you know lots of the marks.I was the one making the mark, but even you osino, like nobody, could do betterthan his and there's a joke up. Looper i was like tell it's not that hard tobe gay. The has such like a powerful. I don'tknow. I comes to the body he's saying that i'm too big, that's why he wantsto go. I'm too big to i ran in if you want to get there late. I cantell about the word ro problems we have from now. Let's no, it's very funny because becausecoddles wasn't just a caricature and it just wasn't, you know what we've seenportrayed on tv in the early days of non binary or gate characters had hadheart to it. Although i have to tell you, i have incorporated the cuttleshair flip and room exiit into my life, i'm like the kiss of the shoulders yeahah. Ofcourse i got it up, so i want to talk a littlebit. You know the idea and the image of being animmigrant has really been tarnished in the united states, especially becauseof the last administration. We won't go there and sometimes we forget, and nowyou we will rite. We won't go there, you know, and we we forget to talkabout the beauty that exist in being an immigrant. So i want to talk a littlebit about the beauty of your childhood, both being brazilian, and what made youcome to the united states. Well, the beauty of a loi was very i have i have. I have a great childhood,i mean back, then you don't know you just grow up. You know, and i'm from asmall town is very far mis, where i'm from, like my dad, was a coffee farmer...

...that wasn't gazing the cid. That's.That was something that didn't happened. So it was a little bit of struggle forme to find myself and and also i remember, i've always been in love withthe entertainment in the arts, and my town didn't happen. Movie theater, soit was, it was a discovery for me seems a early age, not just my sexuality, butalso what i want to do in my life and try to find my place in in this planet.You know and like why am as sexually and and also as an artist but growing up in brazo it was it was it was it was. He gave me a differentperspective, like i moved here to study cinema. So when i and when i came here,i faced the culture and language barer, all that difficulty that everyimmigrant come has to do with and and also i'm great, i'm really gratefulto have grown up in brazil like after seeing the culture here. So we give melike, if you, like my mind, is a little bit more expended in terms of s likethe human relations towards each other. Iunderstand especially doing as hers like poly people. I understand thatpeople can love differently, can have different perspective and still betogether. I think coming from another country can give you a dis clarity andand understand her there. One ways of lives, all the ways to grow up atowy tosurvive. Brazo is very different country. Then there's a lot ofsimilarities to america, but that also there's a lot of differences andgrowing up on in a different country. We, we have abuse those big differences here. I want to jump that later, but yeah for my. In my case, i become theplace. I come from. Brasi known as one of the first place in the entirecountry, we barely have water there nowadays a little did it's different,but it isn't, but just people just got a little better on buying their ownwater, but it's very drigh, it's very it's very poor. Even culturally. Youknow at least like they have their own culture beaus. Everything is very close,so for me again, being gay in a very little town and being an artist. That'swhat i think from the very beginning got my depression like really crazy. Imade to health. I struggled because i i knew i was gay. I knew it was anartist ever since i was five, so i had to grow up. Listening to my father,saying if i ever had a gay son, i would kill him and i'm like. Oh that's me,that's the only case on you have before you came out. I yeah before i came out.The sociale was always living and it sleeping afraid and waking up afraid inthat that was like horrible. That couldn't be myself in man anyway. Sofor me, was always a sorgho, an exit door. When i finally made it to somepollo and i saw the pits he was like- oh my gosh, i matin not crazy. Like immormon like i was just a very reclusive small, now a small place and smallminded, and it's not it's not their fault either. I think you know peopleare just some people just are different. I guess brazils a very big catholiccountry, very fair about it. But anyway,...

...when i came to america, even though,when i got to l, i couldn't speak the link. I couldn't pick a word. Icouldn't. I remember going to the to the star boats for the first time andsay i watch cough and i watch of a wit i watch cough and nobody. I spent likethe line kept growing and i was like. Oh my god. I want you cough and someone in a line recommend. Ithink he wants a coffee and i and i i time a in america a part of it but italy as polly said it's such a break and rebuild break and reveal thatcultural goals that it just makes you see things differently and when you getprojects like polly people, where you have to see things differently e andmore than that, you have to respect the differences to be able to portray itwith honesty. It helps a lot a lot from the deepest of my heart. So i thinkthat the fact that we are immigrants is just one makes us fight harder because,with you always like, we have to catch up with the people who were born herewith a year here with this studying here. So i feel that, no matter whatwith you, no matter how amy consider races are nomination so awards we getin our lives, we always feel like we still behind. You still have to catchup, because we're still in this vintage in though it's not it's not really true,but it's just that that that now that background feeling, you might do mightknow it. You know, since we are all a tinos but yeah, look at you like shiningbright, like a diamond, a aeorai, popstars e. That's how you knowit. I think ingrates a little bit more,that their phones so and less afraid of the fight. I guess that's what we havein no. I love that. Well, thank you for coming to our country and you knowbringing your art to us and we all know what brazilians are known. What presentan men are known for. So thank you for that too. Oh, my god elaborate well, you know we have hand bag hearts yeah. We can talk that way. Here you go now. We are in the middle of prideseason. What are you individually most pridefulof right here? Right now, i have to say right off the bad. For me, it's theright of getting married and finally just we've been so lucky to be in aplace where i can walk holding in with my boyfriend and don't feel like i'mgoing to die because of it and like you...

...know, and we still see it sure cases,but it's less common in a place like la- and i am very, very, very proud of thework we've been doing for so long time and that we keep doing, and we neverforget that it's a daily fight. We are still in leg with more than seventycountries just to be who we are and as an i'm very, very, very proud thatwe're still standing up with still fighting and we're still showing peoplethat be engaged. Not just what we had. You know in the seventies and theeights is just it's just equal pro from his security. It's like bein gamins. Ijust love someone, you know like me and i can have a family. I can have kidsand i can do responsible like and i can love responsibly and do you please haveto respect that, if not by chow, by my choice but by law. But but you can'tjust shut us anymore. You know like it's just not fair, to treat a humandifferently just because he loves different he's, still loving and i'm soproud that we all stand up. We all get out and we are getting louder andlouder and you know we're helping kids to not commit beside having kids to togrow up mentally healthier because they're making them feel safer becausethey're just so out there. So i'm that's the things i'm most proud of ofhow loud and how proud we are getting as a community yeah we're in the pricesand wear our little rambo flag right here. I'm just proud of be, you know to be gave who weare and and be able to be come from my skin and and and not be afraid to tellthat we love a person of the same sex or if you're in a polyana relationship,like i think being proud of who you are is a is a is a fundamental basis foryou to have to be. You know, to live a happier life and yeah, i'm really proud of be gay, andi'm proud of me queer. I wat that's why i told my mom all thetime. Actually, my mom is a crazy catholic back in brazil, and i justkeep telling my mom love is love. Is love is love and no, what's the same?Hatred is a scene, so just be careful with the things you listen in you learn,hatred is a sin. Love is never the same. Al i'm going to say yeah in the end ofthe day, is all about love. You know it's like we were if we're livingsupply in the same sex or different sides, o the mon for more than oneperson we're just talking about love, i think that's one layer. It definitelydefines someone character as it, but it's not a hundred percent like peoplestill have. They still can be a great person. This you can be a bad person,you still have other ran in your life and- and i think the prime off is herejust you to show that the games are proud of the majority of them and wetry to include all of them to be proud that who we love. You know what i meanthat doesn't matter it. That's not going to be fine us, but we're proud ofbe that way. Yeah well and it's my fa. I was raised very catholic, all growingup as well, especially coming from a conservative. You know latino householdand it's funny when you look. If you...

...want to look at christianity and lookat the new testament, all jesus said was love. He didn't give us theseworlds. He didn't condemn us to death. He didn't ring a flood and kill us all.All he did was talk about love. That's all he did he's like yeah, that'sdaughter, i just said love is love yeah, yeah, right, you're right, i meanthe end of the date. You i don't know like we're. I don't we're not harminganybody else for love some like. So, if somebody wants that has a religion thatthat goes against. Who you are, i think we should stand up stand up forourselves first than any other thing in this life,so you should we're not commiting any crime, we're not harming anybody aslong as you're not harming not causing any any damage to anybody. If youloving somebody else- and you should be proud of that in stand up for that, ifthere's any religion any in your organization that he, that is against,that, you should choose yourself first and and stand up for that and know thatthere are people that are like you and this pride mont is here to show youthat you're not alone and we're going to be here, for you you're not alone. Ithink that's a little one. I love chatting with you guys and nowthat i have some behind the scenes dish. I have to go back and watch pollypeople all over again. Please do yes, tell tell our audiencewhere you want them to find you and follow you awesome. So you can watch folly. Peopleon youtube is on my channel tales career present, but you can just typepolly people and you find it, and you can also follow me on instagram. Myhandle is talc hales r. My tweeter is instagram already said the facebook allthe same, just go. Follow me sam, you tim just who slid into his ds lie me or google body people, but we we arealso available on amazon or an instagram on facebook watch even oninstagram. If you go to my instagram account, you can watch some of theepisodes there, but our main channel is the youtube, so you're fret to watchwherever you want. As long as you watch it save me, an dem tell me what youthink yeah. Yes, i i well my hadis more were more simpler is tony more shot. Oabout shots, like you know, like a film shot and movie shot a no me as like itticularly tell more shots, don't hesitate to have you know any kind ofquestions it want to talk to us by any means we have. We have been gettinglots of people just you know talking about polypody people sharing theirstories with us like. Oh, you should put these on the episode. I'm like,okay, take it in in it. I know everything is a good thing, but yes,just you know we are here. We are open for whoever wants a new friend. Well. Thank you so much for joining us,hey. If there's a season too, i want to...

...play the nosy neighbor. Okay, o my lost,like that's how you know that he really watched it yeah. I was all right well right! Well, wedefinitely have to hang out and we have to talk more, but thank you so much forjoining us today and have you pried. Thank you. Riait has been my chat withtara and anthony more. You can read my inteptr with them at metro soro andthat's our episode in your host alexander rodriguez. You can follow meon instagram at alexander, is on here until next time stay true and do you bo that has been another metrosource. Manyblack share, subscribe on your favorite podcast player and check out the latestissue. Metro sports magazine on new stands or online at naturam. Follow uson facebook instagram at that resort and on twitter. That's a course manuntil next time than as.

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