Carson Kressley

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On this episode, we chat with Emmy Winning TV Star and best-selling author Carson Kressley, most known for his work in Queer Eye for the Straight Guy and RuPaul’s Drag Race, and who is also our Pride issue cover boy…on newsstands around the nation and Metrosource.com. Carson comes from an extensive career as a competitor in equestrian events, fashion - having worked for Ralph Lauren for a number of years, and of course, reality TV – in addition to Queer Eye and Drag Race, was seen on How To Look Good Naked, Jeopardy, Celebrity Apprentice, Worst Cooks in America, and of course, Dancing with Stars, just to name a few. As a red carpet maven for the Oscars and Golden Globes, he is no stranger to E! Entertainment or Good Morning America, and the list goes on and on.

We chatted about his early career as an equestrian competitor, wearing Calvin Klein jeans in 4th grade, his role as an activist, what dating app he is on, how to slide into his DMs, the importance of Drag Race, what essentials to include in your closet, the importance of being supportive of other entertainers, his hangout with Cher, and how many tequila sodas it takes to get him to dance well…

Hosted by Alexander Rodriguez

This is metro source, many, theofficial podcast to Metro, source magazine and home of short forminterviews with your favorite personalities from the lght world andbe quit fun and informative. It's Metrolo on the go out in cousins, makenice out in proud sine Husain hundred anninety. The year I was born just kidding. This is metro source minis inwere host Alexander Rodrigues lead rider for Metro Force magazine and Avidpodcast Er. So, on our personalities like myself and the myriad of otherLGER S, entertainment show host other podcast Ers, you name it o to thepioneers who took the leap as out of the closet media personalities beforeanybody else did, and today I chat with Emmy a winning TV star, best selling,Arthur Carson Cresley. Of course we know him from Queer. I for the straightguy and rope post drag race, who is also our pride issue, cover gramunderstands around the nation or Metro source com? Okay, he comes from anexpensive career as a competitor in equestrian events, by the way, manyyears in fashion, having worked for Baffler for a number of years and, ofcourse, reality TV in addition to Queri and drag race, he was seen on how tolook good, naked jeopardy, celebrity apprentice, worse cooks in America and,of course, dancing with the stars just to name a few and as a red carpet maven.He is no stranger to entertainment or good morning America. The list goes onand on and on. Please welcome Carson Cresley. That's me. I sound like areality. TV Ho I've been all over the place. Well, you know, but you make it work.So you know I don't want to get started off to series, but we do have somethingserious to talk about. All Gay men are supposed to dance.Aren't they what happened on dancing with the stars? You know what they're,so I think they're supposed to know how to move, and I would tell you I did notget that gene. So it's okay, some of us, you know you're, not fully blessed andI'm actually very good. If you took me to the club and gave me fourteen toKilas, I'm a fantastic dancer, but when you have to do it in front of,like you know, ten million people online television and a sparkle pirateoutfit, it's more jaunting. For some reason, you know it's very it's very difficultto think of you as a shy boy- and I know during your interview with Metroswords, you were a shy boy. Did you think it was competing in theequestrian events that kind of brought out your personality yeah? I was very shy. You know like allof elementary school. I was you know the quiet kid and you know a part of it. I will attributeto you know, maybe being bullied and not being comfortable with who I was asa young adult and a teenager in a pre teen. You know when you get picked onyou find a coping mechanism, you think hm. How am I going to distract thosepeople? So they don't clap me on my calvin line jeans in the fourth gradeand you develop a sense of humor and a personality as kind of shield, and Ithink that's where I got my sense of humor. I was just like. If I can keeppeople laughing, then they're not going to bully me. So that's you know the ultimate silverlining. I think, because it's been a great help in my career, in whether it wasshowing horses or working for Ralph, Lauren or, of course doing televisionnow, did your family kind of have an idea. You know this young kid is veryparticular about his jeans as outfits. They must have known early on that youwere you're a little different. You were a special yeah. I mean I literallyhave like my kindergarten picture and I have painted nails and like a littlepasley shirt on and it was yeah. I think they kind of got the memo atabout age three. Well, you know people say I woke up like this. You were justborn like that. You know you're born...

...that way. I, like it, was the doctorslapped my ass and I was like Oh that was great and he's a doctor data now carson. How come we haven't seenyou in a horse related reality. TV show, horses are still a big part of yourlife yeah. I mean I grew up on a horse farm and that's something I've alwaysdone, and it gave me such a great world view, because I got to travel andmade all just kinds of very different people all over the world. Doing thatand- and I still do it- I'm actually going to a horse show tonight in SanDiego, and I don't know why we haven't done a reality show. Yet I did. I havea farm in Pennsylvania and I've done a bunch of shows there for food networkand Animal Planet and antiques road show. We haven't done somethingspecifically on horses, but I am hopefully producing something in thevery near future about t the incredibly competitive and wackyworld of equestrian competitions. So stay on thelookout. You know if it's not out there, you got to make it happen. So I'mtrying to do that myself. That's exactly right! In my mind. I imaginethis waiting for government style like make mannery almost I mean I would behere yeah, maybe that or a little bit of dance MOMS thrown in you know. I could just see Habile Miller wheelyherself in in a crowd of horses, no Carson. We see you on every TV showimaginable. I feel like we feel like. We really know you and that your kind of ours so to speak.We look at your social media, it's very positive. It's colorful, it's Sassyvery on point and branded, but is there a private side to you that you chooseto keep off camera? No, not really! I mean, I thinksometimes my my family know sometimes when I either have them on a TV show orin my social media they're like. Oh, we didn't sign up for this. We don't wantto do this, so I kind of keep them wherever they feel comfortable. But asfar as me and my life, it's pretty open. You know you can seeall the details on Instar or twitter or face book or grinder or SCROB. Are youreally on grinder? What's that? Are you really on grinder on some otherwise Siyou know a singlelady yeah? It's because you're so busy. You knowand that's another question I wanted to ask you. You continually are in thepublic eye continually doing shows and of course we know with drag race andQueer. I you've also become a spokes person for the GT q community. Do youfeel that your personal life, your personal journey, has had to take aback seat such as you? You are a single guy, you're busy it's hard to, pin youdown. Well, Oh, it's actually, not that hardto pin me down a I yeah. I mean I think everybody has toyou know, learn how to balance. You know work and family and their loverelationships and certainly being busy has been a blessing, and I love it, andI think you know everything is about timing and I think now, I'm ready toyou know, find somebody and settle down. You know I'm not getting any youngerand but you know I'm not mad about any ofit. I think it's all meant to be. You know it's all fate and timing, and whenit's s supposed to happen, it will happen. Okay, so I have to know if somebody wasgoing to slide into your dams. You know to you know to woo you so to speak.What kind of dam would? What kind of Damn would you be responding to? First,Oh gosh. That's a good question. I think somebody WHO's actually donetheir homework. Isted of just saying, Sup Brow.

You know comment on something like Isaw your show on e and I thought it was really good or I love the picture youposted of your horse or whatever just you know, you have to kind of make aneffort, not that good of an effort, but just a small one, yeah of course, ofcourse, because of your roles in prominent LBmedia projects, you have become the spokes person, this role model for thecommunity, it kind of came with the job. It's not like. You filled out anapplication to be an activist. How have you grown into that role and how hasthat aspect changed your life? For me, it's very organic. I just do me, you know ever since queereye, people were saying you know, what are you out there promoting? What areyou trying to do? A son, I'm just living authentically and happens to beon reality, television and for a lot of people? That is, that visibility and that authenticityis a very powerful combination, because you know literally, I would you know seventeen years ago when Queer I forthe Strait that came out, I would be traveling somewhere and I'vebeen in the important people would be like. I never knew any gay people. Inever met a queer person. I was like what have you never been on an airplane?Have you never had your air highlighted? Certainly, you've met the Games beforeand it was that sense of visibility and seeing youas a person and not as a poster child, really changes people'sminds and attitudes and they say well you're a lot more like me than Irealized, and you seem like a great person. Why shouldn't you be able toadopt or get married or all those things, so it helps push equality forward. Iyou know, try to keep it casual and just you know do my thing. I do feelvery strongly about supporting l, GT Q, Youth and I've worked for a long timewith Cindy Lopper on the true colors united were the host. You were her MCyeah. We do a concert every year we raise a lot of money because,unfortunately, gay kids, Queer kids tend to be at a much higher risk forhomelessness because they are still getting turned away by their families.Or you know certain faith base. Sheltersmay turn them away. So it's a real problem and Sindy want to tackle it anda bunch of US got together and it's been almost, I think twenty years andwe've done some great work and pass some great legislation and we're making sure that L gt kids have a voice and are seen andare hopefully not subject to homelessness, because it's a totally fixable problem well and on behalf of the shy you know,gate kids growing up. I was once shy, believe it or not. You know seeing people identified with in the media, itjust shapes a life. So thank you. Thank you very much for that. When you sawthe casting call for a show called queer eye, we know. Bravo was somesmall cable network that people are like what and then to have a show thatthe title actually is like we're. Queer like there's no secret here was that a weird cassion call to get,and what made you respond to that because you really kind of have to comeout to the world yeah I mean there really wasn't. I didn't even know therewas a casting call and I didn't even know what testing calls were and it wasso serendipity and it's like, I totally believe, in fate and destiny, because Ishouldn't have even known about this show I worked for out flora. I was afashion style. Is I didn't work in the television space, but one of myproducers at Ralph Floren said. Oh, I heard about this. Show it's going to beon. Bravo and I was like. What's that a non stick, cooking spray and she said no, you should go and try upfor it. So I just I literally went downtown in Chelsea in the city and tocasting place where they did like dominos pizza commercials and Scharming,and I went into a room and they showed...

...me a tape of a straight iye. They saidwhat do you think and there were you know, a bunch of other contenders andthey were very earnest and talked about building bridges between ourcommunities, and I thought that was lovely, but when they got to me, I waslike listen, the guys hot, when we just get it out of the pleated Kakis and getrid of this mellet holbeaut smoke. Shout let's do this and they're likeokay. We like your attitude, and I think that was it. I think they werelike. Okay, we're going to hire you, and then we made a pilot in twothousand and two and again I didn't think anything was really going tohappen and then by two thousand and three NB universal it purchased. Bravo,they loved queer eye. They want to make it the center piece of their rebrandednetwork and the rest is her story now explain to me your time at RalphLoren, you work there for a number of years and you really worked behind thescenes in a number of ways described to me what the fashion worldwas like at that time. Well, it was very exciting and you know I do think in New York therewas a heyday of American designers and of course it started with Halston andBill Blass and cline. And then you know a new generation took over in the s andthat was really like. You know: Power and excess and Glamor and and fun andfashion, and those were you know, Calvin Klein and Ralph Lauren and DonaKaren and working with Ralph was fantastic. I did not have a fashiondegree, I have a degree in finance and our history, and I just knew I wanted to work for eitherRalph or Calvin, and I moved to New York City and I got myself an interviewand I got myself a job being Ralph's brothers assistant and it was just likethe devil wares prodit. It was high, stress and pressure, but everyone wasreally nice. Unlike the des Potu yeah, and I really flourished there, I lovedit. I love the brand. I love the culture, I love the people there andTete was the time when Ralph Loren was going public, so it was a very excitingtime. It was a big company. I think there was eight thousand people workingthere, then, and- and we did amazing fun things you knowI would eventually start styling all of the ad campaignsand photo shoots. So I was you know going to Peru in the summer to findsnow to do a holiday ad with a bunch of gorgeous models and some Samoan puppies,and you know going to the islands in thewinter and Shooting Fathers Day. Campaigns and working with you know,Patrick, to Marshal Ya and just great photographers of every kind and going to Milan and styling runway showsat the Palazza and sneaking off to see the dull Chang the bana show orsneaking off to see rosace or go to the versate. I tell Ye. It was a really funtime now. Are you going to play yourself inthe mini series about Ralph Lauren? No, I'm just joking, because we hadoften so you know all of the designers are going to get there you going toplay yourself or who would you pick to play you? Let's see. I would probably I don't know someone who looks a lotlikely, maybe Zack Fron. You know okay yeah, although he's like Daddie out now,so I know I know you have to slim down an I am right now we see you never get involved in socialmedia drama, a drama celebrity gossip, you know you're very Sassy, but it'snever hurtful or malicious towards other celebrities and you've beenaround everybody. I think it's become a rarity in l, GT, Q, entertainmentbusiness because everybody wants to get that laugh or that re tweet and itoften comes from putting somebody down or being sassy towards somebody. Wheredo you get that positive and supportive attitude?...

Well? First of all, I just think we'reone big happy community and we need to support each other so taking downsomebody never feels good. You know and I'm a big believer of you know not laughing at somebody but laughingwith somebody. So I try to frame all of my humor in that way. You know it'snever meant to be derogatory is meant to be you know,observatory or funny, and hopefully we can laugh together and honestly. I'mjust not that into all of the twitter, you know back and forth. I just don'thave the time for that. I'm of Com busy shopping and you know, writing horseshows rights. Did you ever think that dragrace was going to become as big as it has become? Yes, I think so. You know I always knewit was a great show and was a fan from the very very early days and I've beendoing it now, for I think this is seven or eight years wow and we have rue Pauland we have amazing, drag Queens, and that is a recipe for success and Ithink, certainly it's more successful than I think anybody could imagine. And but it's you know it's a great show.The time is right for it. We have a great leader with the most amazingproducers and crew and we have incredible queens that give us new life every season. So it'sa very exciting show to be a part of I'm thrilled with its success and justlike we are I for the straight guy having nies and all of that, it's allwonderful and having a hit show is fantastic. But when someone comes up toyou on the street and says, oh because of clear eye, I was able to come out tomy family and my life is so much easier. Thank you or because of drag rase.Somebody in you know some tiny country somewhere were gay,being gay is probably illegal. They get to see people living their best lifeand being authentic and being celebrated for that, and I think it youknow is, can be incredibly inspirational and say: listen, there'sa whole world out there for you just hang on, and you know we will loveand celebrate you, and I love that you said that because I know, as the showsbecome bigger, there's people that say you know drag has become too commercialit's getting too big, but that big voice is telling the stories that so that need to be told- and I really feelthat we've incorporated more of the backster political and social movement ratherthan just a reality. Competition show. So I'm glad that it has a bigger voice, yeah exactly now, who's more apt to belate to set visage Ross, Matthews or Roupall, or you oh gosh. It's probablyme I mean, let's see I mean yeah, it's probably meI hate being early because I feel like I'm. You know I feel like I'm wastingtime and what that could have been doing something yea. I try to get thereright on time, so I'm literally, like you know, working from the clockbackwards is like. Oh, it's, twenty nine minutes to the studio. I've beenearly in twenty nine and a half minutes. You know there's any issues on the waythat I'm in trouble. Yes it I don't need much make up. No, youdon't you I mean you, you are a flower. Now I have to know all of thecelebrities you've met all the shows. You've done this whole career, you know and it's arelatively short time. You know we talked about clear, I being so manyyears ago, but in terms of the expanse of what you done in the time. It'spretty pretty impressive and I don't know when you sleep, but from all ofthat time all this experience is what is one of the craziest stories thatyou're, like, Oh God, that memory that that was crazy. That was, you know. I had a good one yeah, I havebeen doing, Show Bis for about twenty...

...years and that's like dog years, likeit's more like twenty four years or something but one year and I'm a big share fan, Ithink she's fantastic and she had a movie coming out. This is like twentyyears ago was. The farol brothers was called stuck on you and there was aparty and it was in New York, and you get invited to these things, and Ientered this big kind of like night club and as I walked through the doorsmagically, I got you bag started playing and then, as I entered the room,there were booths lining it and it danced for in the center, and Ilooked across the sea of people and in the distance I saw a share at a boothand she was like making eye contact with me and I'm like what me I knew shewas like this and I was like what I'm being beckoned by share and then Iwalked over she's. Like are you and I was like? Oh my God. I can't believethis happening and I got you. Babies playing and it was very carnic and Ifelt like we were supposed to be together and she's was lovely and a fan and delightful,and you know I was talking to her about like old sunny and chair shows and someof the costumes and Bob Mackean we were just. You know it was like what wemight get married and the next day I was going to go interview her for USweekly and I went to her hotel and I was like what do I wear for share and Iwore Ruberto paval snakes in and Python Pants, with purple whip, stitching anda pink tuxedo shirt. understanded understood, understand, and then I wasin Stillingia brothers necklaces. That has like the Jesus and the Mary on bothives called a SCOP. You Low, papular Yep, and I went there and I was interviewing herin her hotel room like at the Carlisle or something and she had a sweat suiton and she had like. The Jew ranged like a Kerchife Bandana on her hair and her assistant went into the otherbedroom of the suite and we sat down started dinger interviewing it wasgoing great and that the end said. Oh, I love that necklace and I was said: Ohmy God share here, take it and I took it off my head and I was standing aboveher and I was trying to put it on her and they don't open up they're,actually pretty annoying and they're made of the finest little gold chainthat gets tangled. So I'm trying to put it over her hair and her kerchief andit's getting stuck and like things are moving and she's like oh go and then,as I'm heven over her, the assistant is coming out and she's like. Are youassaulting share? Just ingots? It was like the assistantwas freaking out. Well, you know was fine and then I don't know it was like.Two weeks later, my phone rang. I was in New York at my kitchen table payingbills and it was like an unknown number and I was like Oh, I hate answeringthose, but I has hate getting the voice mail and then having to call them back.So I was like hello and it was like or- and I was like- oh my share and it wasshare and she was like. I just want to thank you for the beautiful medallionsI wore them on a hike and now they're next to my bed- and I was like I can'tbelieve, Sher just called me on my tin. So that's a pretty amazing story for alittle gave way from Allentown. Well, you know she's going to begetting a biois. It was just announced for the same producers who did Mama Mia,so maybe that'll be a scene and once again, you'll be playing yourself yeah.Maybe I better get my team on that. You should so every mention you're, very onpoint with your outfit, your looks your charm. What do you say to somebody?What advice do you have or words of encouragement you have forsomebody from the LJOT who doesn't ascribe to all of that they may feeloutside of the picture of what a fabulous gay man looks like. Well, Imean everybody can define their own version of FABULOSAE and everybody hasgreat style. They just have to find it, and I think it's you know you don'thave to fit in and be like. You know what you think: A fabulous game. Man isyou just do your version of you and...

I've always whether it was queer. I herthe straight guy or have a look good naked or get a room that we just did on. Bravo,it's always about helping people tap into what they love and how can theyexpress that in the best possible way? So that's what I would tell people. Youknow papist role model. Sometimes you have to study it a littlebit like I'm terrible at math. So I would need to study that if I wanted tobe good at it same thing with, you know how you dress and present yourself. Ifthat's not your natural kind of inclination, you need to study it alittle bit, but it will come and it's so worth it,because I believe more than anything that youknow your clothes or your arm or your closer, what you go out into the worldwith and it can really affect how you feel and make you much happier and moresuccessful when you're doing it right for you. I love that all right. This last one isfor social media. We did the stereo stuff for the article.So tell me: What are the must haves thatevery gay man should have in their closet? Oh Gosh, I mean I mean for most people,not for everybody. I think nowadays you need like a a sheik track. Pants,that's not a sweat. Pan! It's more tailored, lighter fabric almost looks alittle Dressy, a great sneaker, a great blue blazer, a perfect white buttondown fantastic jens. We all live in Denham. You absolutely have to havegreat jeans and that's really it, and then you fillit in with all you other things, and I always say you know, invest in greatpieces that Blue Blazer that suit those great brown lace up, brogues orwhatever and then have fun with the other stuff,gets up at Zara and H, m and discount places and mix it in with the higherquality son, and that seems I really fresh. You don't have to spend money onyour good quality basics like your jeans and your blazers, and thenseasonally. You have fun with these. You know more disposable brands to keepit fresh. I could talk to you all day. Thank you. So much for joining us todaytell everyone where you want, where you want them to find you follow. You slidinto your ms at yes, you can find me at Carson Cresley on face book in Stagra,twitter and scruff. I think people would recognize. I do dopeople ever be like that, can't be you, it must be a cat fish they're like is,that is that you ellen degeneres, it's o! No, I don't have my actualpicture up there right away. They've got to you know they got to do a littlereading first and then they can find me all right. Well, I'mon scrub to so I'll, be looking. Okay, all right will fit me Carson. Thank you thank you, so muchand for everybody go get the issue the pride issue of Metrosideros, the mationand, of course, at Metrocles n. You are a scholar and a gentleman. Thank you.So much I'll see you soon. I put at the Horse show that has been my chat with the coverboy, Carson Crese. You can read my indent article. Like I said we talk alot more about behind the scenes from drag rays. Also from Queer. I andthat's our episode. I'm your host and lead rider for Metro source out SanaRodriguez. You can find me on Insara at Alexander, is on air until next timestay true and do you boom Hatha has been another metro source. Many blackshare subscribe on your favorite podcast player and check out. Thelatest issue of Metro Course magazine on new stands or online at Metraton.Follow us on face book in Stagra at Neter and on tinerant course. Man untilnext time take a.

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