Metrosource Minis: The LGBTQ World & Beyond
Metrosource Minis: The LGBTQ World & Beyond

Episode 46 · 3 months ago

America's Got Talent's Julia Scotti

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Comedian Julia Scott, aged 63, aka “the crazy old lady of comedy,” took to the stage of America’s Got Talent as Simon Cowell, Howie Mandell, Heidi Klum, Mel B, and millions of viewers looked on. Her mission? To show that age has nothing to do with anything, you don’t stop just because you have gray hair. She killed her set. This innocent-looking granny’s routine was bawdy and hip and the audience couldn’t get enough. In her words, “I got a standing ovation, all four of them voted to pass me... and I didn't have a heart attack!" Particularly taken was fellow comic Mandell who asked Julia why she started so late in life. A tearful Julia paused, and carefully replied, “For the first 28 years of my life, I was known as Rick Scotti.” The judges looked shocked as the audience applauded. Howie responded, “You know, whether you’re a man or a woman…you’re human. And you’re funny! You are talented. And you’re brave.” Brave indeed. At age 48, after doing comedy for 28 years, Julia gave everything up to live her authentic self.

Julia’s success on America’s Got Talent and her triumphant comedy comeback are only a small part of what makes the documentary Julia Scotti: Funny That Way so powerful. The film, with classic footage, family photos, and intimate (and often heartbreaking) revelations from Julia’s friends, family, and past lovers, follows this New Jersey native who, as Rick Scotti, was having a successful run in the 80s era of comedy appearing with big names that included Jerry Seinfeld and Chris Rock and winning Showtime’s Funniest Person in New Jersey contest (barely losing the Showtime national to Ellen DeGeneres).

On this episode of Metrosource Minis, Julia and host Alexander Rodriguez chat about coming out as trans late in life, being shunned by her family and friends, her great comeback, the evolution of comedy, and what’s still on her bucket list. Julia shares all in this truly intimate and candid conversation. Check out Julia’s full interview in the April/May issue of Metrosource Magazine, available on newsstands nationwide or at Metrosource.com

This is metro source minis, the official podcast to Metro source magazine and home of short form interviews with your favorite personalities from the lgbtq world and beyond. Quick, Fun and informative. It's metro source on the go, out in proud since one thousand three hundred and ninety. Hello, hello, this is metro source minis. I'm your host, Alexander Rodriguez, writer for Metro source and avid podcaster. We could all use a laugh right now, so please welcome Trans Comedian Julia Scotty, Star of documentary film Julia Scotty, funny that way, based on her life. The documentary follows the New Jersey native who for decades was known as Rick Scotty, a successful comedian who was hitting their stride in the comedy boom of the s appearing with the likes of Jerry's Teinfeld and Chris Rock and winning showtimes funniest person in New Jersey contest. Lost the showtime national to Ellen Degeneres. What wo fast forwards and now, as the Trans Comedian and First Trans comedian to appear on America's got talent, returned as the crazy Old Lady of comedy, and you have to watch this tender, funny, Triumphant Comeback Story. Julia Scotty, funny that way. Please welcome Julia. Hello, I am to tell you, Alexander, I was just looking at the guess that's your your graphic at the beginning, and if he had chrome on this show. Yeah, I was that he was on the att with me while I was on with him. A lot of people have been on agt and you certainly. You certainly made headlines and you warned, you warmed many, many a heart. I just have to ask, what was your relationship or your involvement with the Lgbtq community prior to your coming out? Well, I actually I wasn't in comedy, as you know, I was I was teaching. So, yeah, I was trying to do the best I could in the school system that did not want anything to do with lgbt people. I taught in the Middle School and I, you know, kids would come to me, they knew I was I was. I was bad, not passing, but I would tell people I was lesbian. Nobody, you know, nobody knew I was trans, because that would have been a career kill. You could have been gay back then, but not trans. So, but I tried to bring, you know, gay straight alliance and didn't work. They want to know. So I mean I did what I could, but I was still in search of myself back then. To it's a long process, especially twenty two years ago, you know, especially we didn't have, you know, the language even for, you know, for some of the identities and some of the feelings that we have. What really struck me in watching the documentary there's a number of the Trans Community that wants to know acknowledgement or reference to their dead name or prior life. Why...

...is it so important to you to embrace your past as rick? Well, I mean, there's no getting around that. I'm a public person. So, I mean it doesn't take a whole lot. You don't have to be, you know, MC guiver to figure out who I was before. So I'm not ashamed of my you know who I was, who I was. I mean, I lived fifty years like that and so I understand why some people don't do it. They want to forget, but you know, it's part of WHO I am. So what do you find funny now that you did not find funny in your early days of comedy? My early days of comedy as Rick Scotty. Yes, like what's funny to you now that that's that's changed? Well, I you know, I I've had this conversation with other people and you have to ask them. No, I'm just kidding. I can see see the absurdity of the world from both genders. Having lived in both of those worlds, with both of those tribes, very few things get me upset and I just laugh at them. I mean, you know, and so I point, I sort of point to them, you know, whenever the mood strikes me. Now in the documentary you talk about you know, you maybe thought you were gay. You didn't quite know what was going on. What was that Aha moment that you realize that you were trans? Well, I after a number of failed attempts at being gay, and I guess if you really have to try to be gay, you're probably not gay. Girl, I tried four times a week and nothing sticks. Well, I, you know, I couldn't understand why. You know, it seemed like the guides I knew who word gave really enjoying it and my couple of them, you know, my my couple of experiences were not, you know, I I just said, well, throwing up afterwards is not really a good sign, you know. So there had to be something else, and so my kate, who you met in the movie, only her voice, really, she helped me get to that point. And I had been told by numerous ex wives that I was a woman, you know, some one of them said it genuinely, though. That said it as a as a derisive remark, but something about the way Kate said it, after my list event with a guy, just the light one on, I realized she was right either. Right now Hollywood's enjoy this boom of out lgbtq entertainers, especially, you know, we have eight lists coming out. There seems to be a focus on the younger generation of Trans Entertainers. That's been celebrated.

Do you feel ages of exists in the Trans Community in terms of show business? You me yeah, for show business, well, I think it would. Ages and exists. Whether you're trans, you know, with your sister, gender doesn't matter. There's ages and yeah, so they answered that. I gotta say I have a small part in a movie, you know, and they cast me as a street older woman. So that's Americaus. I can yeah, yeah, he's he was great. I can't wait for this movie. To come out now. I think ag isn't yeah, good, good. Now do you think ages and in general has gotten better in the comedy industry? Your brand is literally the old woman of comedy. I'm in you're killing it in the spotlight. Well, Carol Montgomery, who produced the show funny women of a certain age, we're in the same generation they we've known each other for thirty, five, forty years almost. So or whole point putting those shows on was to give us a chance to show people that we are we are at the peak of our game. You know, it's weird if you're an actor or musician or I mean, look at the rolling stones. They were what collectively, two hundred and hundred years all in it. Yeah, but there's still plant. Yeah, comedies. He only seems to be the only part of show business where you age out because, you know, because it's considered a quote young persons. Yeah, which I just did a show this past weekend and it was it was almost nearly sold out and the average age of the audience is probably forty. So you know, there are people that in my age group that want to see what I do, and young people too. Young people like me. They really like me. You are very, very likable. You know what we saw in America's got talent, but also through this documentary, you know your charm, your your vibrance and your zest for life really comes through and you know it's sharing your life story with the audience is very special and I think it's going to open a lot of people's eyes as to the struggle of that an older transperson. Well, that's what Susan say Adler a God blessed Susan Sandler because she she had the vision for it. I had never even considered it, but she found me in Nantucket after show and we got to talking and one thing led to another and she put almost six years of our life into into this movie and I never thought. You know, as a comic we're constantly being promised stuff that you know. I know somebody on this show will get that. So what she said she wanted to do with the documentary, I said Yeah, have had it. You know, I expected her to show up with her her fulle you know, all of a sudden there's a crew and you know I'm in the hospital and there's a crew and you know, the shooting me with a and it. She just kept at it, kept at...

...it. She's tenacious, she and she finished it. God bless her for that, because it is important. It's an important movie, not because of the I'm in it, because it tells us story that people need to hear and it really tells a story about the family dynamic, not even specifically coming out as trans but certain certain experiences we have with family members and the pain that can often come along with with family members and kind of circling back, taking a breath, taking some time and being able to forgive and being able to come back. I think is a very, very strong message, especially after the social and political era that we've been through. You know, yes, well, you, I assume you're talking about my children. And Yeah, and how they were out of my life for so many years and I couldn't blame them because they were young and, you know, and and so I backed away. Fourteen years we were separate and with the hope that someday they would grow up and and want to know who I was. And and that's exactly what happened. And make and they make, made a decision based on who I was. Now, you know, who is really all, who I always was, you know. So, so it was their decision to start reaching out or what was that spark that inspired them to kind of come back into your life? I over the years I had, you know, every now and then would you know, sound like an instant message or something like happy birthday, Eric Christmas. Never heard back and then, as they got older, my son without first one, you know, he responded and we got started talking online and I think we met for lunch or something one day and it was a very slow process. You know, graduate it's still ongoing, but it's good. You know, it's good to happen in my life and beautifully captured now. You grew up in a time when we didn't have all the labels and terms such as non binary, Pan Sexual. Do you feel labels are helpful or harmful in today's world? I don't think they're either. I know for me they're confusing because I'm old and and I got what it talking about. It, though, the thing with that I get the whole idea, with the pronouns and all, but it does confuse me. It becomes so after a while. I mean, and I'm probably going to get all kinds of, you know, Shit for this, but can I say Shit on this? Yes, say whatever you want, but I don't know that you know that. They then it's like it's like an habit a costello overthing. WHO's on first? I don't you know, it gets confusing and it confuses, you know, people who are not in the LGBT community to so, in that sense, I think it it's kind of all putting sometimes, but I get why people are doing doing because they're they're...

...fighting for identity and and I understand that, believe me, nobody gets that more than I do. So if it makes you happy, then do it. You know. That's all. Now you play a number of straight comedy clubs and a number of straight events. Why is it so important for the Lgbtq community to perform outside of our bubble? Because there's often times stereo touched. That's the straight community has about who we are and what we do. And so when I you know, when I go, ninety nine percent of the place as I play I fill with this gender people and when I go and I want them to walk out of it. You know, she's she's funny, she's a human being and as far as I'm concerned, I see her as female, you know, and that's all. I'm asking for. That's just can give me a chance, you know, to show you what I can do, and I think we saw that America's got talent. You know, it didn't lead with, you know, the Buzz Word or the headline. It really showcased your comedy and that's my choice. Add that was my choice, by the way. So I was going to ask you that. Did the producers kind of coach you or kind of discuss it beforehand? They left it up to me as to whether I was even going to do the reveal or not, and I didn't know up until I went out there, but I told them specifically do not, if you're going to do the reveal, do not do it until after my set, because I want the set to be judged on its own merit. And they they were. They were really very good about that. And and you know, and now with the movie, we're doing the streaming, we're doing the movie in the theater and we're doing a show afterwards, so they get to see, you know, how this whole turned out. You know, it's it's kind of cool. Now in the film we see a lot of positive support from the car the comedy community, specifically towards your coming out towards your routine, towards your material. Do you still feel, or have you witnessed audiences or peers that are not so accepting? I know, I know the people that are then and not so accepting, and I see you know and I get that and that's fine. If you want to be that way fun I steer clear of them, they steer clear of maid. So far we haven't conflicted at all, but I got to say that you know almost everybody that that were, that were my friends before, are my friends still. Comedy communities are very special one. Yeah, yes, what is your advice to newbies in the comedy world? An actor, do something else that this is a comedies like. It's an addictive it's very, very addictive, and if you're going to do this, you have to be Anyr sharious about it. You have to live it, read it to be your food. You, water, air, wo would, wherever, whenever you can, and write constantly. You...

...right, right, right, right. A touching moment was when you were offering your son advice after his stand up routine, and that that was that was very touching to see. I always felt like, you know, when I should when I did that with him, like he's like the father who's like kids. How you throw the baseball? Kid, you're you know, you're right now. No, I'm lefty, that you know. Yes, but he's very good that way. He'll listen to criticism. We talk comedy a lot. You know, he's he knows his stuff well and he you know he's talking to a veteran in the Biz, you know, being part of showtime before showtime was showtime. Well, going back to when, yeah, before show time was shoft that. That's right. That damn melon to genus. He's got my life. A shocking part of the film was when you were watching some of your old material and you performed Anti Gay, Anti Trans Jokes. Do you think there should be limits on jokes? Comedians can tell, IE, Dave Chappell, oh wow, did know you were going to go there with it. I went there. Well, let me let dress what I did first. Okay, it was it was the s and I actually was a s I should say I was struggling with everything at that point. I I remember that I forgot that I had done the bit, but I remember the periods and I know that I was looking for whatever it was that was wrong with me. There was something going on and I the only way I knew how to be a man was to imitate other men like you and I. I just it just seemed like, all right, let me do this, and you saw my reaction in the movie where I saw myself doing it and horrified and I wanted to take that person and just beat the snot out of them. But it's all part of the growth process. So, having said that, I get that people have prejudices. I get that we all have. I get that Chappelle maybe made his statements head of ignorance. You know, he made it sound like because he took Daphne Dorman and that's a come to open for him, that he was somehow doing a fable. She killed herself prompt in and I guess soume partly because of that terrible opening set that she had for him. I think I remember I've said this before, the night she said she was going to do what she was online, as I recall, and you don't take a new being and throw them out in front of a National Act for forty, forty five minutes. Yeah, to be like four years before I could do forty five minutes.

She had no business being this so he you know, I think he's tried to make up for a lot of, you know, his sins by by doing that and I just I hope he evolves. I do hope he evolves. But he's entitled. There was opinion. I'm entitled not to listen to it. So you think network should are his specials. You think that he shouldn't be restricted or canceled in any way, unless this is a first amendment issue. Yeah, the First Amendment doesn't mean that only the people who agree with me should be allowed to speak. You know, they were. They were not seen rallies in New York City in the N S. I mean they were allowed to do it because that's what the First Amendment says. So if you're going to be a you know, a comics, take pride in the fact that we still have the first amendment. We hate it when other people try to censor us. Who Am I to say to say the Chappelle you can't say that I'm offended. Well, I can be offended. He's still got the right to say it. I just don't have to listen to it. That's my answer. I don't that makes sense to you know, it makes perfect, perfect sense I think it's a very honest answer from parent to parent. What advice would you give to the parent of a trance kid who just came out? I just got asked this a couple of weeks ago about a youngster who was if it. If it, if a kid comes out to you and says, Mom and Dad, I think you know and Trans or I think I'm trans or whatever you know, I say if you love the Kid, let them explore that part of themselves. Support them. That's the best thing you can do. It's just love them. If it's if it is a you know something that's maybe you know all the kids and all the other kids are trans. Why can't I you? Then that'll that'll prove itself up. But if they are truly trans, that'll prove itself out too. So as a parent, you this is a complicated world for kids. It's not one thousand nine hundred and sixty, you know, these kids have all kinds of shit to deal with, you know, and so love them, support them. Whatever happens happens. When you kind of did that with your in your own life, letting your kids kind of work out their issues and eventually, you know, come coming back into the fauld but you kind of had to let go and let them kind of go. First painful thing I ever did was to walk away just because I was asked to and and I could have my gut wants me to fight tooth and nail and just, you know, have the cops there, go to court and do whatever I have to do. But I came from a broken home and so I know that feeling of fathers and mothers arguing constantly in front of the kids and I just didn't want that to happen. So did you feel any type of...

...guilt knowing that, you know, being true to who you were came at the expense of them? That's a great question, because it when I told them, well, I a ca and I start over telling when I was thinking about doing this, and I and the thing that did it for me was I self talk a lot and what I said to myself was it how can I, as a parent, ever tell my kid to be true to themselves if I can't be true to myself? I have to stand by, I have to have the courage of my convictions. It's going to hurt everybody. There's no pleasant outcome here. And so it really was a really difficult decision twenty two years ago. That's twenty years right. You know, it's different world now, especially the depictions of what being trans meant. You know, as as how Hollywood depicted it. Now Being Trans were able to explore these stories. We're able to explore lives of real people in a very different way than was exploited, I guess, during the earlier years. Oh sure, back then we were psychopathic killers, you know. You know I always point, I gotta, I always point. One of the first exact exposures I had to this was there was used to be a show called Medical Center in the the S. I think are Robert read the that on. Do you know what I'm talking Julia? I was just about to bring that out. I I think I saw a show about it, but I watched the episode two and it was a dad on the Brady Bunch. It was a two part or to yeah, he was a doctor on the show. I was literally just going to bring this. Yeah, it was that. I remember that episode, was two episodes very, very clearly. It had a deep intact on me at the time and I didn't know why. Yeah, but I had always been whenever I saw a story about Christine Jorganson or night richards, already prominent Trans People. I always you know, I was perked up and I didn't know why, because there was no information about being transgender back then. But yeah, that on the Brady Bunch was my first. I can't imagine what a difficult choice that must have been for an actor, as an actor and, you know, even dealing with his with his own sexuality, to make that statement is nothing. Records. Yeah, you look at Yeah, you look at that, go holy crap, I mean this guy, we talk about the point at thend the but balls this guy. All right, you had to. I had to. I'm sorry, but what are you read? It took a lot of guts to do that. Yeah, but it is funny because I do remember so clearly how that was depicted. I'm part of the journey is also dealing with you're with your personal...

...health. You had a pretty big health scare in the film. What first came to mind when you found out the severity of your health issues? It was a it was sort of a surprise. I mean I was supposed to go in for a back surgery and the doctor wanted me to get the chest dextory because I was a smoker at the time. Yeah, and I had just about a month before had an episode where I was walking him and Hattan from Susan from Susan's play where she teaches up to eighteen street. I had just seemed I think I had seen a rough cut of the move right now, walking up that and I found myself gasping for rears wedding at profusely an IT. Well, this can't be good because I couldn't breathe that. I said, well, I must have long cancer. Okay, well, not too off to the interview. That's what I was on my way to the interviews. And then when they got the chest right back and chest x ray back, doctor, you have looks like you have some blockage. I should know. Okay, and they did it. They took me in the hospital to a catheterization, you know, stent in. He stopped the halfway through it because I can't do this is too much blockage. We got to get you to hospital like a sat next thing I know, they threw me in an ambulance. I'm going up the guards state park with to with Beth Israel. Two days before Christmas. Quadruple bypass one valvry play just one valve repair. I was not and and it it changed everything in my my head about life. When you come that close to it, everything's you see it through a different Lens. Again, it's a blessing because I lived through it and now I talk about it on stage. So it was just what material. Now you dealt with Transphobia in the hospital. I want to ask you how should we deal with our blatant haters? Should we try to build bridges? Should be tone it down, or should we aggressively challenge them? Some people will be transphobic because they just don't understand, and those people you sit down and hopefully teach and show by example. Then there are people like this jackass in the hospital. You see it in the movie. Just for you for those who haven't seen the movie, He was a respiratory therapist, a little bit of a Nazi, shaved head and all that stuff. He kept calling me Rick go by by my dad day. It all through and I kept correcting him as best I could. was very weak and he just kept doing it and finally out. This was an in the movie, but my daughter...

...was there and my Cathie called. Well, my first manager was there. They kept calling me, he he. Finally, my daughter just like what. She like that. That's my girl. Yeah, me personally, I would have at that point, I would have liked to just kick them in the nuts and thrown them out the window, because he didn't want to, he didn't want to change, have his consciousness race. He just wanted to be anyways young. He was in maybe thirty wow, and in the medical field too. I mean, if anybody should understand, yeah, it's well, I got I could tell. I guess I shouldn't even tell his story, but never go ahead, I'll stop. You know you want this just because it's yellow journalism. That's what it is. No, I had some postop problems when I had my gender whatever they call these days, surgery. I needed a guy to college just I had my surgery done in Canada because that's the only place at the time that would, you know, do it without me going to Colorado or someplace like that. Anyway, I had some postop complications and I needed, desperately needed, a kind of cologist. Could not find one. Literally had one say we don't handle your kind or we don't you know. He used the phrase you are kind. So it's a lot different now. I walk into a hospital, Barnabus health system, which is where I had my help, not in my hearts, would be done. Their signs everywhere that we respect all genders. Old You know, the month of June they fly a pride flag outside the hospital. That wasn't what it was like when I when I came around different world. Another touching part of the film doubt, with your wife at the time, who who accompanied you throughout this transition, through the surgeries. What a testament of love. But then there's the side of it too that sometimes people that we love the most and that are on our journey, sometimes you have to take your journey on your own, and that's it really stuck with me, is that you had the courage and you had the strength to be able to kind of do that. Heartbroken, of course, you know, still very much loving your wife, but at the time that's you know, this is my life and this is my journey and this is what I have to go on. It's very bitter sweet to have had that. It is, I think, people brought into your life for a reason. You attract those people into your life that that you need at that point in your life, and vice first she came into my life. She changed me. She maybe, I hate the pie, sound Cliche, but she made me a better person and I was I was so I was a messed up human being because ultimately I found it,...

...because it was this gender stuff. But she boy. I to this day I miss her, I love her. I've never been with anybody since. Don't see me being with anybody ever again. When you love somebody that deeply, are you crying? I'm sorry, but it's true. If you love some I've had the love of my life. I mean you, it's never going to be any better than the matter who I'm with. It's never going to stop that. And so I walk away from my life the stage and go yeah, I've been very lucky, very blessed. I will. We are certainly blessed. You sharing your story. You want barked on the not dead yet to her, and that's what I came back from. The surgery, yeah, which is captured in the film, at least part of it anyway. That gig where I'm in Princeton to catch rising starting printed. It was the first place I ever when I came back after I'm a dying is where I work and Susan, the hard credit. Had A camera crew right there and I'm glad she got it. At the time I was like, boy, I hope, I hope I don't suck to night. I was really nervous. So that not that yet her. What do you still want to accomplish that will make you feel complete? Oh, I am complete, my my young friend, I have. I just said this to every through somebody that they might bucket list, with the exception of one thing, is full. I've done everything I ever shout out to do. I just want to I guess you want to know what that one thing. Yeah, yeah, I want to go to Italy and I want to see where my ancestors came from. I've been my by heart called out to Italy and I'm attached. I want, I have to. I have to see it before it go and and then I'll then I'll they'll be fine. You know, I've had I have had this wonderful, Wonderful Life. I got a movie about my life made. You know, I've had I've been loved, I have loved people, I have performed everywhere I wanted to perform. What more could you ask, Julia? What is your message to your fans? Boy, just follow your heart. There's a little voice inside of you that tells you that guy, to listen to it. It's always right. I used to tell my students this when they didn't know the answer, when they would guessing at an answer for test. I got you know the answer. Listen to the the Bush, whatever your first instinct is, that's the right one.

Same with life, don't yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry, like, I'll talk it at that. Such a no, no, I that's that's great. I remember when I was studying to take my sats and they said whatever you put down as your first answer, just leave it, don't overthink it, move on to the next question because your gut is going to be right. Life in the same way, don't overthink it. Yeah, it's not that all hard. Oh, it is such a joy to to talk with you and and watch your film. Thank you. Can I give a couple of plugs? It's just tell everybody where you want them to find you. Follow you. Okay. Well, we're doing we're doing some pride events with movie. We're doing the movie. This is going to air after about we did. We did want to stand up New York where it's the movie ares, and then I go up and do a set. We're doing one in Austin, Texas, on June fourth. I don't have the full details yet on that. It's streaming on Amazon prime, on Apple TV. I don't know if they sent you the link to to find out where stream. Do you have that yet? Yes, yes, you do. Okay, so will certainly share that. Thank you very very much. I what was your question? Where to busy? Halk my shit here? Okay, that's exactly it's like. Where can people find the follow you and you're on instagram at Julia Scott a comedy right, and and my schedule was up on Julia Scottycom you can always find a schedule here. I've got a new album coming out in just a few weeks, so I didn't know that. I could probably be up by the time you. Yeah, run this podcast. What's the name of the album? I can't tell you. Oh, A kid, but it'll be out. It'll be fun. I cannot wait. I cannot wait. Thank you so much. You are such a delight to chat with and again, thank you for letting us into your life in Julia Scotty funny that way. Thank you for having I'm sorry I made you cry I'm sorry I made you cry, but no, you know, this is these are all the aspects of life, of you know, who make us who we are, and comedy has and humor has always gotten me through many obstacles, and so I'm very privileged to be able to talk to you, one of the funniest people I've seen perform, and you know. But there are those aspects to our lives that that sometimes hurt. Yeah, that's how we got I'm blessed than that I have this, this job that allows me to air that in a way that people will listen to. You know. So thank you, thank you so much. I appreciate I really really do. I can't wait to hope I meet you. And Yeah, you're in New York. Have to get you to the West Coast. I would love...

...to come out there. I think, I think we're I think we've got some stuff on the on the oven, in the oven, on the oven. To come out. Where are you? Where you Okoy? Los Angeles? Oh, you are okay. Yeah, yeah, would love to get me out there. I'll come out. Hey, where are you? Were We weptle we will definitely will you like a truck stop world, go anywhere, anything, that has been my chat with Julia Scotty. You can read my indepth article with her in the latest issue of Metro source, available on newsstands around the nation or a metro sourcecom. And that's our episode. I'm your host lead writer for Metro source, Alexander Rodriguez. You can follow me on Instagram at Alexander's on air. Until next time, stay true and do you boo. Thank you Julia. Thank you, Alexander. Bye. That has been another metro source mini like, share and subscribe on your favorite podcast player and check out the latest issue of Metro Sports magazine on newstands or online at Metro sportscom. Follow us on Facebook, instagram at metal source and on twitter at Metro source mad until next time, they pass.

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